First and foremost, this is a business information and networking
list with a mission of supporting women in technology. We're here
to ask questions, discuss issues, and share resources in order to
make contacts, learn more, troubleshoot projects, and advance our
Part of what makes this a valuable group is that the membership
works very hard to keep it professional and civil—this is a safe
list to receive at work and requires no battle armor before entering.
Usually the list moderates itself, staying on topic and on tone.
Occasionally a Steering Committee (SC) member will send a "play
nice" casual warning to the list or member(s). Even more rarely,
the SC will privately send a formal censure.
Required topics and headers
When you compose a new message to the list, put the topic header (expectations below) at the
beginning of the subject line, and follow it by a short, clear description. For example, if you are asking a question about upgrading your computer, your subject line could be: (tech) How much memory do I need for Vista?
This is important because many members subscribe to a sub-set of the list based on a header
in the subject. Messages require a header in all posts and if you're
on digest, update the subject when replying.
- (discuss) Discussions about optimal screen
resolutions, career issues, business practices, and general catch-all
- (tech) Questions about getting something done
in a particular software application or troubleshooting code.
- (design) Discussion about design of web sites, and other technology-related design concerns.
- (event) Announcements of events of interest
to members. Including the date in the subject often helps our
busy subscribers notice in time.
- (news) Links to articles with a snippet of
contents (see below regarding copyrights).
- (job offered) A job opening in your organization
or one you're passing along as "just the messenger." See also
our job submission form.
- (job seeking) A request for assistance in your
job search, not that of a friend or client—see below.
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Trim Posts When Replying
If you reply to a post on the list, please trim the "original message" portion of your reply, so that only the relevant part of the post you are replying to is left in your reply message. This is especially important if you are subscribed to the digest version of the list, because if you do not trim your message, several irrelevant posts will be included in your reply message, along with the particular one you are replying to.
In addition, remember to amend the subject line of your message so that it reads (discuss) Follow-Up to (subject you are touching on).
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Inappropriate list use including gray areas
You're always welcome to write an SC member if you're unsure
whether your post is appropriate for the list.
Please get consent from the original poster
before forwarding a message outside the list.
Posting for third parties
Your friend or colleague is welcome to join
the free list to get information. Otherwise, please refrain from
posting messages for them. It is fine to post questions that you
are researching for a client.
Copyright or other intellectual property infringement
Most often this applies to news articles.
Please snip an excerpt and provide a link to the publisher's site
for the entire article.
Off topic posts
This includes plumber referrals (unless it's
for your office), jokes, chain letters, inspirational passages,
You are welcome to discuss in general how
you price your work, such as fixed project fees vs. hourly and whether
you use rush charges or late fees—especially why that approach has
worked for you. You are also welcome to post links to public sites
which contain pricing information, whether general resources such
as salary surveys or your own price list. However, please do not
post your actual rates to the list as the Department of Justice
Antitrust Division views such discussions as price fixing.
Advertising including self-promotion
Members may make the occasional announcement
for classes they are teaching or a book release that is of interest
to the membership, but this list is about people wanting to learn,
not promoting your business. So, please make at most one announcement
per book/class, and try to have a signature shorter than your messages.
Also keep a balance—your self-promotion posts should always be far
fewer than your replies to others' questions.
The SC has zero tolerance for mining the membership list for spamming.
Again, a fine line as members treasure a candid
personal assessment of a company culture or service. Please be clear
in your messages that you're writing about your personal experiences,
and avoid hyperbole or generalizations beyond what you have seen
yourself. Pre-emptive "warnings" about problem firms or individuals
are almost never appropriate. This is a time an off-list reply may
be the best choice.
Persistent argumentativeness or rudeness
We all have off days and touchy subjects,
but if you are persistently uncivil and/or unhelpful, the hosts
may ask you to leave the party.
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On-list vs. off-list
While you are welcome to share side comments off list, please remember
that DigitalEve Seattle has a large percentage of "lurkers" who
learn from the posts going by, even if they never send a message
themselves. So, if you're providing a technical solution or resource,
please send to all.
Note that off-list communication is subject to the same guidelines
as on-list, so if you receive an inappropriate message from another
member, please report it to the Steering
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The matter of tone
Sometimes all it takes is a word or two for a message to go from
helpful to snarky—especially since e-mail is such a notoriously
"Studies [link] show..."
Ping-pong conversations between two individuals where neither
[jargon] in your search"
"This isn't quite what you're
looking for, but may be a good starting place..."
"I can't believe you're not familiar with..."
Any time the list heats up, it's a good time to step back and ask
yourself whether you really want your next message to be how 1,500
professionals (i.e. potential co-workers, clients and employers)
remember your name. Certain topics, such as gender discrimination,
are sensitive areas for many members and it may be wise to tread
more carefully than you normally do in your e-mails.
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Warning and censure
The Steering Committee is the final judge of what is or is not
appropriate to the list. If we step in, please listen to our request
and explanation. Our primary goal at all times is to keep this list
a useful resource for many more years, and not see it degrade into
flames or spam like so many other forums have. Sometimes we are
acting solely on our own experience and the guidelines; at other
times we are also incorporating private feedback sent by other members.
Informal warnings to the whole list
Sometimes a SC member will send a "Keep it
civil," "Light not heat," "Stay on topic" or similar post to the
whole list. This means the thread as a whole is still providing
value, but it's showing signs of trouble. While you may have been
a recent poster on the topic, please do not think we are singling
you out in that public arena.
Informal warnings privately to members
Any time we have a warning or request for
a specific member, it is always sent direct, with a copy to the
SC. Most often, this is due to a member straying into a gray area
of topic or tone.
Formal warnings and censure to members
Any message which includes the word "formal"
means either a single post or accumulation of your posts has crossed
a line. Most of the time, this is a warning, requiring only that
the problem posts stop. In extreme cases, formal warnings will include
a notice that your posts are being placed on moderated status (held
for review) for a period, or that your membership privileges have
been permanently revoked.
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